Branding / White Labelling

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    Tony Sehy
    I wouldn't bother on the digitalsignage.com.  I've tried them...twice.  The first time I found nothing worked as it was supposed to except a few items.  Lots of good theory, but it just doesn't work as advertised.  I went back 2 years later because of a feature they have that Rise doesn't thinking it would be perfect for a particular customer.  After playing with it in our office on a very solid machine and using Windows, we gave up after 2 weeks.  It would work for a while then just crash for  no apparent reason.  That platform doesn't live up to the marketing. 
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    Steve Howard
    I have to agree having tried twice with digitalsignage/ mediasignage as was. Had some success with the commercial hosted version of Xibo  -good support, but still missing bits like a decent smooth scroller etc. Gave up on Rise over the white label - still amusingly get these thread notifications from time to time.
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    Darius Aleksas
    One of the things that intrigues me about Xibo is HTML based editor. This is a huge plus in my book because I do not even need dedicated widgets (such as lousy scroller), as I can make my own from many available sources.

    Steve, what are you using now for digital signage?
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    Steve Howard
    I jump in and out of using it as its mainly for one offs at exhibitions. If someone approached me today I would use Xibo - but probably be slightly lazy and use the hosted (springsignage) version. Only real decision would then be whether to use Windows or Android players - have used both without any non solvable issues. PS Love your website - but also it perfectly makes the point about white labelling ('Rise Vision Template')!
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    Darius Aleksas
    May I suggest/ask to introduce custom labeling options little by little. For the starters, it could be custom splash logo. I am sure it would take care of custom branding needs for most of the users.
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    Wendi Borden
    Absolutely this, if we could've gotten our logo over top the Rise logo on the player and the editor/store we pretty much would've been fine.
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    Jeff Siler
    No problem on that. He's able to trick it out with branding colors n logos, and hide all that's needed.

    Stay tuned as we get it ready for prime tine.
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    XMedia DDS
    Hi folks,

    I have used Xibo on more than 300 screens before switching to risevision. To be frank enough it will be favorite to white label. But face stability issue till 1.6 version. The latest 1.7.9 is stable enough. The biggest plus point of Xibo is its offline player and proof of play. And the biggest drawback is you can't have a flexibity of zone/region distributed Incase of multiple regions as of now. But those who want to run basic signage with unstable internet it's good choice. Risevision is lite on the other side.

    Regards
    Prakash
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    Alex
    Hey Everyone,
    I'm not sure if Rise is still monitoring this post or not, but I wanted to take a minute to offer my opinion from a macro-point of view.  Don't worry, I'm going to bring this around to white labeling soon.

    If you've ever read the book Inside the Tornado by Geoffery Moore, it is a book about how technology products are adopted, and how to position your company according to different stages.  I am not going to go into detail on this, but I suggest you read it yourself.

    Digital signage in general I think has moved a lot slower than people originally thought - but it is moving and growing rather steadily.  If I were to guess where the industry is at, I would say we are actually still crossing the "Chasm" which is a big gap between when early adopters start buying technology and the first big wave of mass market.

    If we were to follow the book on how other technologies were able to cross the chasm, we would need to create a bowling strategy.  And each pin is a niche industry.  That entails creating a truly whole product for a specific niche, then moving on to the next one.  When enough pins are knocked over and enough little industries are satisfied, the first wave of the mass market decides the technology is tested enough and therefore a massive adoption called the "tornado" occurs.  This is where margins drop, quantities skyrocket, and everyone wants a digital display.

    This has been my view since day one of owning a digital signage company.  You notice there are many other companies adopting a white-label product.  This is a sign of start of a bowling alley - and in my opinion it is where everything will eventually move.  VAR's or Integrators can adopt the white label and use it to create their own "whole" product for a specific niche.  To me, this is why the white label is so important...not only from a single business perspective, but to drive the whole industry forward.  We need to allow companies like mine and yours 'dig in' to our niches so that we all may profit in the future.

    A note about Rise over the years, since I've been with them for 8+ (Byron, please correct me if I'm wrong here):
    Rise may say that they already tried to work through Integrators before without much success, and they are right to say so.  But this high level of service and expertise was also required at that time in order for the market to get to it's preliminary/embryonic stages.  And it was Ok to remove them/us down the line to direct resources to their main product.  But if I were to guess, they might have thought they were in the bowling alley back then, when really they were in the stage of the pre-early adopters.  Now that a niche-service integration is required, I think it's time for them to re-invest in integrators so that we all may catch as much of the mass market for them as possible.)

    That is my view of how market adoption will inevitably drive white-labeling forward.  It needs to happen for everything to solidify.  General products out there simply can't satisfy everyone right now.  There are signs of it out there already, and just like anything, I think more will come and prices for other white-labeling will drop.  I want stay with Rise, so I'm doing my best to sit tight..I suggest all of you do to, because I still think Rise is one of the best.  But that doesn't mean I haven't done my research on what's out there.  Nothing against Rise at all, I think it's right for any digital signage company to keep tabs on who's playing the game.

    Sorry for the long post, but believe it or not, it's actually cut short.  Good luck and I can't wait to see what happens in the future.
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    Byron Darlison
    Good points as always Alex and I appreciate the kind words. Thank you. As you are well aware it is a constant struggle to take the few resources that you have and apply them to what will serve the most people first, and as such give you the best chance of success in business. Right now reliability, ease of use, replacing our messaging infrastructure, resolving embedded Presentations, and more functionality for larger networks is the focus because of the sheer numbers that it impacts. We are making good progress and as we take care of these foundational pieces we will constantly re-evaluate what's next. In other words the numbers weren't there to support white label when last we visited it, or better said, the numbers were far larger in other areas, but by no means does that mean we have closed this door.

    Thanks for the patience and understanding,
    Byron
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    Alex
    Anytime Byron, some would say that the entire world is open to interpretation.  Sometimes I just like to throw out my point of view and hear others.

    There are few companies that allow users to have such open opinions right on their own website.  I agree with what you're working on, it all makes sense.  Anyone who owns a business knows that you need to place emphasis on priorities that return the most.  And there's certainly no shortage of priorities.
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    Jeff Siler
    Hey folks, I haven't been real active in a while on the white label thread, but we're almost there.

    We have developed a Java-based approach that will start up and hide the RV splash screen. You can brand the start up with a series of six images, and then the screens switches to spinning wheel of the presentation startup.

    We have also created a white-label user interface that will allow you to set up sub companies and give them ability to add web widgets, photos, videos, text.

    Almost done with testing and adding features; need to add a template button so you can provide users templates to work from.

    Will have this ready for purchase soon. Stay tuned.
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    Darius Aleksas
    Interested!
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    Jeff Siler
    Thx Darius. I'll announce when we have it ready for prime time. hopefully soon!
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    LUIS REYES
    Will this be supporting Chrome OS?
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    Jeff Siler
    No, we are only doing it on Windows.
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    David Alonso

    Hi, any news on this? Sounded like you guys were ready to get this out, what;s the latest?

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    Jeff Siler

    We're real close.  Mt computer guy has a couple of things to work out before we can roll it out to you as a beta. It's looking really good though.

     

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    David Alonso

    Thanks! Any ETA? Weeks..., months...Would really help us with our planning... :)

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    Jeff Siler

    Should be in the next couple of months.  Only thing I see needing fixed at this point is that it only grabs a max of 50 presentations on your company for the presentation or schedule panels.  Hopefully he will fix that very soon.

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    Jeff Siler

    Hey folks, we pretty much have our white label interface ready for some beta testing by y'all.

    I'd like some of you to be our guinea pigs and give me your gmail account and names that you use to log into RV.  I'll add you as users to a test company we have.

    You will log into the interface and see your presentation list.  You can copy, edit and publish presentations.

    I told my developed that he needs to add a "New Presentation" button, and that the "Properties" button for a presentation isn't working.  Otherwise, he's done a really nice job giving me the interface to add content to a presentation.

    We'll be ready soon after this to sell a license to each of you that's interested that will allow you to go forth and customize the branding to your own.

    You can email me gmail account and name to jeff@csramultimedia.com

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    Jeff Siler

    I've been searching hi and low for a digital signage company that has white label reseller option and a web-embedable preview.  Haven't found one yet.

    I know white label has been thrown in the stack of "we'll get to it one day".

    This would be a really sweet option to throw on the enterprise pricing rack. A number of other signage companies charge an annual fee for white label. This would be another revenue stream for y'all and us resellers out in cyberspace.

    I remember the crowd-funding idea RV floated out a while back. It wouldn't take too many of us subscribing to a white-label enterprise option at, say $400/yr, for y'all to cover your development costs. $400/yr was a number I got from one of the companies I looked at.

    We got really close on our white-label product, but the recent email saying the API tools were closing down seems to have nixed that effort altogether.  This puts me back in "please give us a white label option" mode.

    Comments?

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    Kaden Christensen

    Hi Jeff,

    We aren't currently pursuing adding white labeling functionality to our application, but it's something that we may investigate in the future. Per Ezequiel's response in this community post, your current interface built on the developer API should continue to work past the 2/28/19 date, but it may stop working at some point in the future as we make updates to the application.

     

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    Jeff Siler

    Thx Kaden. Would y'all consider keeping the API alive past 2/28/19?

    We're really close on getting a white label product put together that we can offer to the other RV users. It'd be a shame to break the pipe so close. We've almost got all the bugs out of the version people in my company can use, and we can go back and fix the bugs in the version I wanted to offer other users.

    Lemme know; please keep the API alive!

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